For example, many in UPCI consider the writings of Frank Ewart and John G. Scheppe as authoritative. References of the Son coming down from the heavenappear eight times in John chapter 6 alone! : These false doctrines can affect teachings about justification, sanctification, the role and work of the cross and an understanding of the nature of God. Where in the Scripture does it say that God is unitarian? 1:1-13; Jude 1:1; Rev. 2:18). The Oneness Pentecostal view of God is similar to the ancient heresy of Modalism. He was making claims that no mere human could make. Before time. But they would simply amend their argument by saying, But this is clearly what early Christians believed because it is here. So I am willing to grant the long ending of Mark for the same of argument. Brother Burgos carefully and respectfully dismantles the misguided half truths of Oneness doctrine. However, to early Christians (and many today), the triquetra symbolized the Trinity (one God, three persons). 14. However, like John 10:30, this verse also does not record Jesus as saying, I am the Father. It merely says, He who has seen Me has seen the Father. What is the best way to understand this verse? Pentecostal Christianity has more than 700 denominations. So what does this verse mean? Oneness theology rejects that the Son was the actual Creator. UCJC: Institute of Biblical Studies-Baltimore, Md. History of Heresies - History always repeats itself when no one is paying attention. Colossians 2:9 does not teach that the totality of the Godhead was in the body of Jesus, but rather that Jesus embodied the totality of the divine nature and God is totally revealed in Him. But that is not quite the point of the argument that I am making. Thus, any objection to the triquetra as use by Christians would be inconsistent and historically ignorant lacking any meaningful basic research on the triquetra and its origins in religious and non-religious usage. Beisner, E. Cal. Something went wrong. 1:3). plural nouns, adjectives, verbs, prepositions) to describe the one God? With scholarly precision, Michael Burgos has provided an incisive evaluation of Oneness exegesis and theology while accurately representing the teachings of Oneness Pentecostals. Add to Wish List Link to this Book Add to Bookbag Sell this Book Buy it at Amazon Compare Prices. All of the arguments both for and against Oneness beliefs seem valid and to me come down to se It is extremely well written, but wasn't the best choice for my needs. On that first day, something looking like split tongues of fire fell from the sky onto the followers of Jesus. That is why he went on to say in verses 19 and 20, Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. At the 1986 Oneness Symposium, Robert Sabin addresses the charge of whether the UPCI is Christian group or a cult. Imagine that you heard two people speaking in tongues. Contributing Writer 2022 13 Jun 5:13).As NT scholar Harold Greenly points out, When the article is used before each member, each is to be considered separately (Greenlee, Exegetical Grammar, 23). So when a Oneness advocate says that the Son did not exist before time, remember, that assertion is not based on biblical exegesis, but rather on what he or she has been taught by Oneness pastors/teachers. One could be baptized in the name of Jesus without actually reciting the words In the name of Jesus. For the Oneness Pentecostal to read a deep concern of baptismal formulas into the text is to retroject their situation onto the apostles. Biblical Response: The Bible is the inspired, inerrant, and infallible Word of God (see 2 Tim. The Holy Spirit is God applying One cannot have the Father except through the Son, Jesus Christ: Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also (1 John 2:23; see also John 17:3). [1] In Phil. It may be that is the name under which we are baptized. What arguments do they use to support this proposition? First, there are no good reasons to think that obedience to this command necessarily entails that those words are recited. It is an idiom for authority, like if I say in the name of the king. This is firmly established in Acts 4:4, which reads, By what power or what name did you do this? Power and name are parallel. [2] Cf. Unable to add item to List. In this piece he critically interacts with the following argument of mine ( from this blog post ). One of the key verses to which they will appeal is Mark 16:17, which tells us that those who have believed will speak in tongues. In this episode I interact with " A Solution to Dale Tuggy's Argument against Oneness Pentecostal Christology " - a blog post by Skylar McManus. As we read through the New Testament, we will encounter what boggled on Why Calvinists And Catholics Share The Nicene Faith, on Why Charismatics Should Cut Glossolalia (Tongues) Out of Their Theology, on Why Christians Should Empty Themselves of Kenotic Christology, The Shortcoming of Christian Apologetics From An Apologist. He said that God the Father was the One True God of the Old Testament. When we hear a Oneness Pentecostal claiming that everybody speaks in tongues throughout the Bible, we immediately go to 1 Corinthians 12:29-31, for Paul recognizes that not everybody possesses all of the spiritual gifts, and tongues are listed among them. 3:17; 17:5; John 3:35; 5:20; 2 Pet. If Jesus were the Father, as Oneness believers contend, one would expect to find a clear example of thisat least one passage (cf. Further, the triquetra has been found on Indian heritage sites that are over 5,000 years old; found on carved stones in Northern Europe dating from A.D. 8th cent. The trinity is found even earlier especially the writings of Jesus being God as the son pof God.The trinity was udsed before Tertullian or Irenaeus debated with Oneness . They believe that Jesus and the Father are one essential person, though operating as different modes. an outline of some early heresies in the Church. Nevertheless, the requirements for outward adherence to a strict moral code in order to maintain salvation inevitably leads to legalism and a lack of assurance of eternal life. He disproves Oneness arguments and establishes Trinitarian truth. John 14:18: I will not leave you as orphans. They refer first of all to the biblical passages that speak of this baptism, namely, John the Baptist's words about the work of Christ, Matthew 3:11 (cf. also John 4:40; 14:17, 25). Does The Old Testament Favor Oneness Pentecostalism? 4:4). Recall what I said regarding what Oneness Pentecostals believe about being born again. Additionally, the repetition of the preposition distinguishes the Father and the Son as two distinct self-aware Subjects (e.g., 1 John 1:3). Third, it may be that Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the one name under which we are baptized. Example: in Isaiah 54:5, Maker is plural in Hebrew, lit., Makers; same with Psalm 149:2 where Maker is in the plural in Hebrew. After all, in John 17:11, the text says that the disciples are one in the same way that Jesus and the Father are one. Bishop Thomas Dexter "T.D." Jakes (born in 1957) is a popular black preacher and evangelist who is the main pastor of The Potter's House church in Dallas, Texas (founded in 1996), with a congregation of over thirty thousand members. This is an important reminder of the need to respond to contemporary . The Holy Spirit is not regarded as a person at all, merely a manifestation of Jesus power or a synonym for Him. Jesus was claiming absolute unity with the Father. Church of Our Lord Jesus of the Apostolic Faith (COLJF)-30,000 Baptism is not essential to ones reception of salvation. To avoid the plainness of the passage (namely, the preexistence of the Son and His personal distinction from His Father), Oneness teachers argue that the glory that Jesus (the Son) had with the Father, only signified the future glory or plan in the Fathers mind, thus anticipating the Sons coming at Bethlehem. They accomplish this by adhering to modalism, more commonly referred to as oneness theology. John 3:13; 6:38, 46, 62; 8:23, 38, 42; 16:28). That may be the case. Many Oneness churches especially the UPCI rejects justification through faith alone by teaching that one must be water baptized (in the name of Jesus only) to be savedwith the evidence, as the UPCI teaches, of speaking in other tongues. The *Son* said that He possessed (note the imperfect of ech) the glory WITH (para, in the presence of) the Father (not in the Fathers mind, for eh Son had it). , ISBN-13 We now consider and refute all Pentecostal Objections to the fact that the Bible teaches spiritual gifts ceased at the end of the apostolic age around 100AD Conclusion Summary: No longer any need for gifts: Apostles have been led into all truth: Jn 16:13 + Jude 3 The Bible has been written and confirmed to be inspired For if Jesus is the Father, then, between whom would He Mediate since by definition a mediator/intercessor represents two distinct parties, other than Himself. Better books written by an ex UPC theologian, Reviewed in the United States on December 13, 2018. I always say at the onset to one like yourself, who make the incorrect uninformed assertion regarding the triquetra symbol being derived from Wicca, paganism, etc. The only thing that keeps me from fully accepting Oneness at this point is Christology. Oneness Pentecostals believe that the trinity is ONLY one entity. "Michael Burgos has produced a brilliant blend of systematic theology and biblical exegesis with a detailed and thorough discussion of the main passages at the center of the dispute between. Every time somebody is saved throughout the book of Acts, we will see them speaking in tongues. 2:5). 7. If God is unitarian, why are there so many plural descriptions in the OT (viz. This is far, far more plausible than thinking that Jesus switched between him and I.. 33 For the bread of God is that which comes down ek tou ouranou, and gives life to the world. 34 Then they said to Him, Lord, always give us this bread., 35: Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. The modern Pentecostal movement is generally regarded to have begun in 1901 in a chapel prayer meeting in Topeka, Kan., led by Charles Parham, a teacher at Bethel Bible College. , Item Weight Christian Outlook (PAW), AOHCG: Berean Christian Bible College-Birmingham, Ala. ; and there is a Japanese form, again with no religious significance. Yes, the Jesus of Oneness theology is a false Jesus. How does He now say, I have come down ek tou ouranou?. 7. 36: But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe., 38: For I have come down apo tou ouranou, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me, 41: Therefore the Jews were grumbling about Him, because He said, I am the bread that came down ek tou ouranou, 42: They were saying, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? 3. He said that he and the Father are one. However, this doesn't fit with this passage, because these still hadn't received the Spirit at all. 1 Thess. By promoting the Son as a temporary mode or a role of the unitarian deity whose life started in Bethlehem, denies the Son, as well as the Father. Nevertheless, they are the same person, not two separate persons. 2022 Department of Christian Defense So, you appeal to v. 9, to assume Jesus is the person of the Father, but a verses later (v. 23), Jesus clearly affirms His deity as Son in distinction from the Father: Jesus answered and said to him, If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and MY FATHER will love him, and pros auton eleusometha [to him WE will come] and monn par autw poisometha [at home with him, WE will Make].. The reason that I am doing that is because Oneness Pentecostalism is often not understood by trinitarian Christians. "Michael Burgos has produced a brilliant blend of systematic theology and biblical exegesis with a detailed and thorough discussion of the main passages at the center of the dispute between Oneness Pentecostalism and traditional trinitarianism. Against Oneness Pentecostalism: An Exegetical-Theological Critique Author Michael Burgos Publisher Church Militant Publications, 2016 ISBN 0692644067, 9780692644065 Length 246 pages Export. For this reason, many Christians have difficulty seeing anything wrong with the Oneness position. Thanks! John 3:5: Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. He says in verse 14 that he will ask the Father, and the Father will send the Holy Spirit. Privacy Policy & Copyright Notice. And those (like yourself) who object (due to a mass of misinformation) to the Trinitarian symbol, since they do not have a problem with pagan-origins calendars in their homes, do they have a problem with the Apostle Pauls quotations of pagans writers to make a biblical pointnamely, Epimenides of Crete in Titus 1:12 and Acts 17:28 (referring to Zeus); Aratus of Cilicia in Acts 17:28 (also referring to Zeus); and Menander in 1 Cor. Oneness adherents (along with Muslims and Jehovahs Witnesses) wrongly assume that the concept or word one when referring to God (e.g., Deut. Over fifty times, the Father, and Jesusare presented as explicitly distinct in the same passages (cf. The triquetra symbol has been found in Norwegian churches dating to the 11th century. Therefore, when they see Jesus, they see the only way to, and an exact representation of, the invisible unseen Father, for Jesus makes Him known, He explains or exegetes Him. It is certainly possible that various cultures developed the basic design arrangement independently. 1. Previous page of related Sponsored Products. This case of marked distinction is also evident when Jesus differentiates Himself from God the Holy Spirit: I will ask the Father, and He will give you another [allon]3 Helper, that He may be with you forever (John 14:16; also see 14:7, 10, 26). 12-14). He has exgsato [lead out, unfold, declare, Thayer, 1996: 223] Him (the Father). This interpretation is not an attempt to understand the text. sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven" (Matthew 26:64). When Peter obeyed the command of Matthew 28:19, he recited the words, In the name of Jesus. From this cross-reference, it will follow that the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is Jesus. Grammatically, when dia is followed by the genitive (as in these passages), the preposition indicates agency (cf. 50 This is the bread which comes down ek tou ouranou, so that one may eat of it and not die. 2 John 1:3- Jesus is the Son of the Father). For an expanded exegetical refutation of Oneness unitarian theology see Oneness Theology (Modalism). Note: In this beautiful passage (Jesus high priestly prayer) the Son (for Jesus says, Now, Father) says that He possessed or shared glory with the Father, before time. 6. Thus, because God is tri-personal He can be described as both Maker and Makers and as Creator and Creators. He is one Being, not one persona point that is repeatedly brought to bear by the OT authors. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. Further, in the Gospels, almost one hundred and eighty times, Jesus referred to the Father as the Father, my Father, or your Father- thus, as a distinct person from Himself. This argument can be deflected simply by explaining that the trinity is strictly monotheistic, claiming that there is one God who is eternally present in three persons. Further, turning to 1 John 1:3, not only does John show that believers have fellowship with both the Father and the Son, but the Father and the Son are clearly distinguished as two persons by the repeated article tou (the) and the repeated preposition meta (with): We proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with [meta] us; and indeed our fellowship is with the [meta tou] Father and with [kai meta] His Son [tou huiou], Jesus Christ (see esp. Oneness movements emphases on personal holiness and healthy lifestyles are commendable. Well, in verse 18, Jesus is talking about the resurrection. It is knowing The Bible endorses slavery and oppression. Has anyone ever heard this before? asserting that God is one person) and (b) the basic theological errors of Oneness theology (e.g., denying the deity of the Son). Both Oneness believers and Trinitarians agree that the Father is invisible and does not have a physical body. If God is unitarian, how do you explain passages such as Genesis 19:24 where Yahweh (LORD), rained brimstone and fire from Yahweh out of heaven? 8. 12:11; Eph. (vv. But what good reasons are there to think that? 3. Many trinitarians, unfortunately, have never heard of these arguments before. Please try again. Oneness folks like yourself typically cherry-pick passages (esp. including terms like Trinity, Unitarianism, Reviewed in the United States on March 13, 2017. Lastly, There has never been a recognized biblical scholar, commentator, NT Greek grammar, nor Lexical source that has ever interpreted John 14:9 in a Oneness-unitarian way as you do.- because neither this text, nor Johns entire theology supports the Oneness idea that Jesus is the same person as the Father. 5:13 et al. Share your personal testimony of Gods grace and your faith in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Hence, Jesus could not have meant that by seeing Him they were literally seeing the Father. I am going to [pros] the Father (v. 12; cf. 14 and Johns theology. 13:14; also cf. 6:8; 54:5; Prov. 9. He was making claims that no mere human could make. 6:4). the parallels in Mk. Significantly, there are two instances in which that pattern is broken. He comes from a United Pentecostal, or Oneness Pentecostal, background. To be sure, Modalism embraces another Jesus, another Gospel, and another Spirit. During the Last Supper, the disciples were distraught. The question that we need to ask is one what? 15-16), Jesus distinguishes Himself from His Father by using different prepositions. Well, Oneness Pentecostalism has a lot of subtleties. Closed-Mindedness How To Be A Good Agnostic Skepticism is Not Worthy of Belief Faith Has Its Reasons A Balanced Perspective on Reason and Faith Investigating Faith: Placing Religious Truth Back Into the Arena of Knowledge Eternity is Not Forever: An Argument for Theism Responding to the Jesus' Words His will is one with the will of the Father. Matthew 28:19 and Acts 2:38 Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The argument isn't against modesty, but that the descriptions the New Testament gives are examples from the first century and aren't universal prohibitions for every time and culture . His knowledge of living water from the Old Testament (Jeremiah 2:13, Isaiah 12:3, 58:11, etc) should have informed him. 31; A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures, 4:478-79; and cf. Behind this question lay a criticism of the commonly-held Trinitarian Pentecostal argument that the name of Jesus in baptismal texts from . But these do suffice in showing that the Bible affirms that God is triune, and militates against Oneness unitarianism. Note the Context: In verse 6 Jesus says, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. In verse 7, He explains to His disciples that if they had known Him they would have known the Father also. Note: in passages such as John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6; Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:2, 10-12, the Son is clearly presented as agent of creation, the Creator Himself. Anyways, I would change that symbol. JWs, and unstudied Oneness advocates) chiefly utilize the pagan-triquetra arguments against it. Note the context indicating that the Father sent the person of the Son. John 1:18; Col. 1:15; 1 Tim. Modalism is the belief that one God existed in time in three distinct modes of being: first as the Father in heaven; second, bodily as the Son on earth; and finally as the Holy Spirit. In addition, many Oneness advocates rely on the unbiblical revelations received by various Oneness leaders whom they regard as divinely inspired or anointed interpreters of the Bible. I have a friend who is try to understand he trinity. One possessed the gift of tongues and the other possessed tongues for edification. 13:14). In Revelation 5:13, the Lamb and the Father are presented as two distinct objects of divine worship, as they are clearly differentiated by the repetition of the article t: To Him who sits (t kathmen [lit. Important Question: If Jesus is the Father, why is there not a single passage that states this in the NT or the OT? Example, Paul says in 2 Corinthians 13:14, The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Also see passages such as Matthew 3:17-17; 28:19;Luke 10:21-22; Galatians 4:6; Ephesians 2:18; 1 Thessalonians 1:3-6; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; Titus 3:5-7; 1 Peter 1:2-3; and Jude 1:20-21 where all three persons of the Trinity are referredin the same verse or context. In John 4:14, talking to the woman at the well, Jesus said, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life. In John 7:38, Jesus referred to Rivers of living water. This is a theme throughout the book of John. Hence, the Son emptied Himself by means of His incarnation (cf. Also, John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17; and Hebrews 1:10-12 teach exegetically that the Son was God, the agent of creation, the Creator, thus preexisting with the Father. John 1:14). (Robertson, Word Pictures, 5:275-76). Author: Michael R. Burgos Jr., Burgos Jr., Michael R. Format: Paperback. If you were to join a Oneness Pentecostal church, what would your experience be? Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. The Bible indeed teaches the existence of only one God (Deut. Let's look at the Foursquare Church and United Pentecostal Church International and see how hey differ. Jesus then reiterates (as a corrective) that by seeing Him they can see, that is, know or recognize the invisible Father (v. 9). Sphere: in the sight of, before (someone), c. Association: with (someone/something) (BBGG). If the Son did not eternally exist with the Father as a distinct person why is it that the Son is said to be sent from the Father out of heaven? While this book may be helpful insofar as it rehearses typical Oneness Pentecostal views and arguments, it is far from providing a substantial treatment of Scripture or a meaningful interaction with trinitarianism. Further, how do you know that you do not merely possess the gift of tongues? Several verses are quoted to establish this view, such as Colossians 2:9 (NKJV), For in Him (Jesus) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Oneness theologians would argue that if the Father and the Son were separate, then the Godhead could not fully dwell in Christ. McAlister of Toronto, Ont., began teaching that the Trinity doctrine was untrue and that baptism should be done correctly in Jesus name only-not in the traditional trinitarian formula. There Are Different Kinds of Tongues 2:8-9; Titus 3:5). Here's what you should know about Pentecostal Oneness. While many studies have been written to provide a critique of other heterodox Christian groups (e.g., Jehovah's Witnesses, the LDS Church), there is a general lack of careful scholarship examining the theological claims of Oneness Pentecostals. 6:16). Mark 16:18 is part of a disputed portion of Marks text. The Hidden Cult of Oneness Pentecostalism. Be prepared to cite (in context) and explain specific biblical passages supporting Christian doctrines, particularly the biblical basis for the Trinity, the historic understanding of the nature and work of Christ, and salvation by grace through faith. the Father (in the vocative case, Pater. If the Father and the Son are the same person, then the Oneness teachers have a difficult job explaining how the Father and the Son can love each other (See Matt. United Pentecostals, also called Oneness Pentecostals, are known for their rejection of the Trinity, which is a hallmark doctrine in orthodox Christianity. Clarence L. Haynes Jr. This Belief Bulletin presents basic Oneness Pentecostal history and doctrines and provides a biblical analysis and response. Because I live, you also will live. If an individual believes that there are three gods, then they have, in effect, denied the doctrine of the trinity. Pentecostals hold that believers do gain saving faith when they come to Christ. The Pentecostalism Controversy This study was published by the Central Bureau Press, 3835 Westminster Place, St. Louis, MO 63108, in 1973 with the Imprimatur of the Most Rev. It is our duty to go into the world, preach the gospel to all nations, make disciples, and baptize those disciples in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Its pagan, with pagan origins. Jesus is said to have two natures: human and divine. In Ephesians 2:18, Paul teaches that by the agency of the Son, Christians have access to the Father by means of the Spirit: For through Him [di autouthe Son] we both have our access in [en] one Spirit to the Father [pros ton patera] (Eph.
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