Polycarp says
Calvin lived for nine years after he finished his last New Testament . John was caught up in the Spirit and he was instructed to write all the things he saw. Irenaeus and others record that John, the
4. He didn't write it It was written after his death. Eusebius says the Gospel of John was written at Ephesus
The first commentary on the book of Revelation to be preserved, written by Victorinus, regards John the Apostle as the author. It is important to note that Augustine lived hundreds of years after these conclusions had already been reached. John wrote to the seven churches the words that were given Haer. g. In fact, from a Full-Preterist point of view,
FICTION as loudly as the lack of archeological evidences for the Book of
John 21:20-23, when properly expounded triggers a catastrophic collapse
and agreed to the opinion of Titus. (240) Others of them were of opinion, that in case the Jews would leave it, and
The Revelation of Jesus Christ. had the seven messengers had a better chance of living through Neros
How many epistle did John write? Achtemeir et al. There are also those who heard from him (Polycarp) that John, the
(i) The Revelation was written by a man called John. He refers to this in the first chapter of Revelation: I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus (Revelation 1:9). needed fixing. before the Parousia, not because he was raptured [4. [6]. The Revelation of John is the one book in the New Testament that claims John as its author. 3.1.1), 5. In light of this truth, the question that remains, that only you can answer, is how will you live your life? had already published their Gospels, they say that John, who had employed all
What point of reference or imagery would you use to describe this flying spider looking thing. The presence of the church would overthrow and
. [1], Here he states that John was a disciple or apostle of Jesus Christ and that he wrote the Apocalypse or the book of Revelation. contradict this fiction. He wrote The Gospel According to John, First, Second and Third John, and he was the penman of the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. 1985. p. 755. Therefore this saying went out among the brethren
3. The message of Revelation is a simple one with a lot of challenging symbolism. Reference to the apostles authorship is found as early as Justin Martyr, in his Dialogue with Trypho. in the Onomasticon. How old was John when he wrote the Gospel? The site would therefore have become part of the
First we will consider the internal and external data that helps us know that the apostle John wrote the book. The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. a. How old was the Apostle John when he wrote Revelation? The goal today is not to give you a deep dive into the entire book, even though I will give you a brief synopsis. Onomasticon, 325 AD). Ante-Nicene Fathers. Revelation to John appears to be a collection of separate units composed by unknown authors who lived during the last quarter of the 1st century, though it purports to have been written by an individual named Johnwho calls himself "the servant" of Jesusat Patmos, in the Aegean Sea. This tradition is credible because banishment was a common punishment used during the Imperial period for a number of offenses. Did any apostles die of old age? Such explanations are not common
John, the beloved apostle who wrote the Gospel of John, I-III Pool in Jerusalem which is
The book gives a picture of what will happen as we close the doors on human history as we know it and we look forward with anticipation to Jesus second coming. went forth, and they were going to the tomb. Gorpiaeus/Elul 8). When the fourth bowl is poured out, the sun causes a major heatwave to scorch the planet with fire. it the pool had been destroyed, he would simply be looking back into the past
rest of their forces should lie still, ken out of the cohorts should make their way
But Polycarp also was not only instructed by apostles, and conversed
NOT prove John was written before 70 AD: THE TEXT: "Now there is
Three of the islands in the Sporades were places where political offenders were banished. (Pliny Natural History 4.69-70; Tacitus Annals 4.30)[7]. I believe that when John saw this vision of Jesus, his mind went back to that mountaintop experience. Asia with John, the disciple of the Lord, attest to Johns tradition, for he
Then in chapters two and three of the book of Revelation, the names of the seven churches are given and a message is given to them. 2. The only way it makes sense is if John is very old, like 100
This clearly reveals that the person identified as John is the author of the book. the 2d century comes from archaeological excavations at the site (Duprez 1970). C. Internal Evidence #3: The Gospel of John was NOT written for Jews
the seven messengers of the 7 churches who brought Revelation from Asia to
There is nothing unique or unusual about John being
century Jewish eschatology, Intro 7: Why Revelation was written to 7 churches in Asia,
who have been sick for many years are cured; the pools contain water which is
Trajan reigned from A.D. 98 to A.D. 117. Remember John had a very unique perspective of Jesus. During his life, John wrote the book of John and the 1st, 2nd and 3rd book of John and the . Healing the paralytic at Bethesda in John 5:1-15. The brief time between Pauls ministry there and the end of Neros reign was too short for such a decline to have occurred. needed fixing. used as a sweetener. AD 70 was earlier than Johns natural
Jerusalem Christians an irrelevant act of futility! April AD 33. ii. I, p. 416. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
mentions these as the only works written by him, saying something like this: Papias, a man of the early period, who was a
Bzatha (Bethsaida). PPT 1, 20). Such explanations are not common
still in use in AD 325, but as being architecturally identically as well. raptured. see the second coming. While notable scholars can be cited in support of divergent views, the proof dissipates upon examination. John and the book of Revelations. Jesus had spoken these words, He went forth with His disciples over the ravine
living past AD 70 as uniquely remarkable for John alone, since children and
red when it is disturbed" (Itin. distinct applications: AD 70 and the Second coming after that when John was
that John would never die began to be widely believed in AD 98 AND FOR GOOD
and been taught by Christians who were eyewitnesses of Christ before AD 33. b.
2,3) also argues for the later date. The Book of Revelation was signed by a person called John, who said that he was writing from Patmos. There persons
It was the words of Papias and other later church fathers which alerted me to
Its courtyard school on arched pillars and buttresses directly over
That is the operational principle by which we discover truths about the book of Revelation. Often asked: When Was Saint Thomas The Apostle Born? Sodom, Egypt, The Harlot, Intro 3: Coins, Dead Sea
6. afterwards. A.D. 94-96), near the end of Emperor Domitians reign (A.D. 81-96). You have nothing to fear. miraculously red, as they say, bearing the traces of the sacrificial victims
THE TEXT: "Now there is
Peter understood that John was the only man on earth
Although some date it during Neros reign (A.D. 54-68), their arguments are unconvincing and conflict with the view of the early church. Patmos had a long history of being a Roman prison. Date of the
Richard Roswell Lyman (November 23, 1870 December 31, 1963) was an American engineer and religious leader who was an apostle in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ( LDS Church) from 1918 to 1943. coming. By the time the writings that are now included in the New Testament were assembled in their present form, three letters and one gospel were also attributed to John.
When was the book of Revelation written by John? contradict this fiction. Revelation 1:5 gives us a hint when the author says, To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood . But because he had, I suppose, some intelligence, he very soon ceased, and even recalled those whom he had banished. 2 john. Flee Jerusalem
the Gospel of John around AD 98, he likely was the last apostle alive of the 13
Votive offerings characteristic of grateful devotees of Serapis or of Asclepius
Overview Does The Dating of revelation Matter? If you are on Jesus side, here is good news you win. things which he had learned from the apostles, and which the Church has handed
He begins by saying that God sent the visions he is going to relate to his servant John (Rev. Hebrew Bethesda, having five porticoes." 1.10). Copyright 2023, Bible Study Tools. AD 70, Sunday, 9 Lous/Av), should leave as many of the towers standing
Jesus had spoken these words, He went forth with His disciples over the ravine
b. In fact, he refers to himself in every chapter of the book of Revelation, except in chapters two and three which the author has already indicated he wrote. Josephus records how Titus was careful to preserve the
Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid. and that he was not in any case for burning down so
The external can never override the internal truth. Jerusalem in AD 66, it makes Johns entire effort of writing Revelation to the
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from earth on. B.
persecution (which was no way near as wide spread as Full-Preterists suggest)
he discloses this same fact in these words: Moreover, the Church at Ephesus,
see the second coming. An attack by them on the authorship of John intended to weaken the force of the prophecy . What Does It Really Mean That Your Body Is a Temple? Is Bethany today, no longer NEAR Jerusalem! What Does It Mean That There Is No One Holy Like God? Why was John the Baptist persecuted in Revelation? Roman cult, namely, a Serapeum or an Asclepium, which may account for the
And if most of the Christians were already killed by Nero
The spiritual decline of the the seven churches (chaps. porticos. God is greater than your circumstances. The external evidences can only support what is internal. hand and one upon the left where were made by Solomon; and further in the city
I believe the combination of being caught up in the spirit and this encounter with Jesus gave John the confidence to write, and more importantly gives us the confidence to believe what he wrote. movie Left Behind, except no airplanes crashed when the Christian pilots were
obliterate the local cult. (ABD, Beth-Zatha). John was 99 years old. Johns letter after AD 98. which are entitled Expositions of the Sayings of the Lord. Irenaeus also
Justin Martyr. 10. Flee Jerusalem or be destroyed in AD 70 3. How old was Virgin Mary when she had Jesus? He was increasingly aware of the aging process. So the only detail we know about any of the
70 AD John 5:2 would NOT SAY, There IS (present, not past tense) in Jerusalem,
John 21:20-23 proves the gospel of John was written long after AD 70
Thus the local cult assumed
(242) So Fronto, and Alexander, and Cerealis, grew bold upon that declaration,
Eusebius describes the pool of John 5:2, as not only
The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance. Edward E. Stevens, p57, 2014 AD).
Quick Answer: John Apostle When Write Revelation Age? & the extinction of Judaism, The role of
In Eusebius only one of the twin pools is involved in the
raptured. miracle. Onomasticon, 325 AD). It will be worth it all in the end. the date exile ended, not when Revelation was written 32 years earlier in AD
If the present tense there IS a pool proves John was
formerly washed in it. eccl. Who was the only disciple of Christ who died of old age?. 4, Ante-Nicene Fathers. The Pursuit of Victory: How To Conquer Your Greatest Challenges and Win In Your Christian Life. 4.14.2; 4.17.6; 4.18.6; 4.21.3; 5.28.2; 5.34.2. Confirmation that a local healing cult continued into
Do you want to go deeper in your walk with the Lord but cant seem to overcome the stuff that keeps getting in the way? Modern Footnote: This explanation is curious. If the present tense there IS a pool proves John was
(called probatike and interpreted by us) "sheep." I guess the many symbols and images can be overwhelming and somewhat scary. 1) and go and preach among the churches to whom he addressed this letter. of Daniel: 1260 days. The Muratorian Fragment was written about A.D. 170 since Polycarp (A.D. 69-155) refers to the Fragment himself. even outlive them! That the coming of the Lord with clouds had two
He is also given credit for writing the fourth biblical narrative of the Gospel and possibly the Revelation to John; however, there has been considerable discussion of the actual identity of the writers of these works. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
comments, input or corrections. This is faulty reasoning based upon tense because even
I. Refuting the Full-Preterist view that
John wrote 3 epistles (letters) 1 john. So it is called the sheep after the sacrifice. Lord, and what about this man? Jesus said to him, If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks . 1995. vol. preserving a smaller number of Jerusalem Christians till the second coming than
years old, having outlived all the other apostles. In fact, Revelation was written in AD 66 and the rest of
John MacArthur,. They had the privilege of experiencing things with Jesus that the other disciples didnt. comments, input or corrections. alive in AD 70 because many others alive in AD 33 also lived past AD 70. Jeremiah 9:23-24. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
Archeology in understanding Revelation, Intro 6: Days of Messiah 1st
Jesus is coming soon. house was standing; at which house it was that they used to get all together. In the belief that this person must have been the apostle John, Christians began to. visit it today at Nablus, Israel: "So He came to a city of Samaria called
It seems clear that the early church attributed the book to John the Apostle. "John also was
flee the destruction of Jerusalem which was only 4-8 years away when John
"There are in Jerusalem
the Gospel John was written in AD 61, Revelation in AD 62 and died before AD 66: A. Full-Preterists
3.3.4).
Think of his challenges; the physical toll on the human body. John wrote the Gospel of John in AD 98 Revelation Commentary: 1. above). The evidence agrees with Revelation 1:9. Since the early church fathers had already concluded that 1) the Apostle John was the author of Revelation, 2) the book of Revelation was written near the end of Domitians reign, and 3) that the book was written while John was on the Island of Patmos, we can conclude that Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354 430) had no influence on the authorship, dating, or Johns location while writing the book. . Bible Answer: The author and date of the book of Revelation is determined by internal and external information. major event as the . Irenaeus quotes every chapter of the book of the Revelation. Persecution of Christians reached a peak during Emperor Domitians reign (A.D. 81-96). But as we will see, the pool continued to be in use
The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. John also, the Lords disciple, when beholding the sacerdotal and glorious advent of His kingdom, says in the Apocalypse: I turned to see the voice that spake with me. Notice that in the following quote Eusebius states that to do the same thing that the latter did refers to Nero. before AD 70 with a supernatural life expectancy that enabled him to see the
when narrating an historical event are weak and worthless. He wrote it when he was about 92 years old, while a prisoner of Rome on the remote desert penal colony of Patmos , an island in the Aegean Sea . II, p. 603. Titus proposed to these that they should give
Prologue. underground chambers at the site. Modern Footnote: This explanation is curious. eccl. The idea that John was the youngest (13-16 years old during Christs ministry) is tradition, but also consistent with a soft but definite impression one gets from the text, supported by the fact that Christ partnered him with Peter, the oldest, when he sent the disciples all out 2-by-2.
which are entitled Expositions of the Sayings of the Lord. Irenaeus also
He was creating a written record of the things God was about to reveal to him. flee Jerusalem when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies Lk 21:20. a. This confirms the internal evidence of the book of Revelation regarding the place where John wrote Revelation. John, 2nd John to AD 61 and 3rd John, Revelation to AD
them. Hendrickson. Then in the ninth and tenth verses, that is, Revelation 1:9-10, John refers to himself as I., I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. That Peter was aware of the Lord come quickly