For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. What do I do now? Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? Local map Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Map marker Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. Warden's terminal Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. Fallout: New Vegas location There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Inhabitants Best. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. NVCE changes their appearance. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. [Non-game 1] However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River despite the warden's objections. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. 102. If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. Valve Corporation. Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. Understaffed. Valve Corporation. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. Scrambler, Hannigan, and four unnamed Powder Gangers can be found in this building as well. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. It worked for me. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Tai Scott. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). What is the advantage of helping Good Springs? However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Instead all they do is mouth off to me in dialogue. The unlocked room next door has a copy of Lying, Congressional Style on the desk. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. Valve Corporation. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. Helping them is way better than help good springs. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Always alone? Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. All of these will be compatible with this mod. Since he is not part of the Powder Ganger faction, he will not attack even if the Powder Gangers in the room become hostile. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. This happened to me when I was vilified. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. 5. All rights reserved. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. 1K. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. Since I will now not be able to talk to Eddie to get to the stage where I can betray him by initiating the NCR attack, I was wondering if there is another chance to start the NCR attack on the facility. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. (Really early spoilers, I guess? Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. Maybe if they hadn't bothered to design the Prison Uniforms or hand place a bunch of empty whiskey bottles around the NCRCF facility they could have deleted the little part in the file that makes ash piles never go away, or they could have improved pathfinding for companions. Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. At least one remaining brahmin was saved (+4). Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. Press J to jump to the feed. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. What was your reputation with them at that time? To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. I need to stop beng vilified with the powder gangers so I can retake the prision. Be violent enough and fit right in. Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. You currently have javascript disabled. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. Quests taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Press J to jump to the feed. How do I do that? Fallout: New Vegas. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. A positive reputation is required to receive the. Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. Factions Buildings They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. Carter The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Fallout: New Vegas. AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. Thanks everyone for all the info. Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) But their mines are good tho. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. Reply. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. Hannigan Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. Down the line I guess he'll probably give you a job or something but I don't imagine it'd pay much more than Powder gangin', the advantage is that you dont destroy EZ Pete's current mortal shell, Easy Pete can suck my 5.3 inch , I gotta a new Dynamite Daddy. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. They are going after the wrong objective. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. The Followers respond well to charity and acting in the interests of the common wastelander. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. -spoilers-. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. Several functions may not work. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. Cell name The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms.
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